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both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both sides misrepresented the facts. mr. romney misrepresented the facts on his medicare plan and on the president's. let me say, yes, he has to be aggressive in defining who mitt romney is. he'll use his own words. mr. 47%. i think, i think, lay out his vision in contradistinction to romney's and do so in a more aggressive way. >> i want to ask you about the enthusiasm gap particularly among latino voters. we see in our polling while the president has a huge edge in the latino vote, there's a real drop-off since 2008 when then it was 77% enthusiasm, now it is 59% in terms of hispanic americans. what you going to do to make sure people turn out? >> nare sending me all over the country. i'll be at jefferson-jackson dinner in iowa, i've been it to florida. we have surrogates all across the country. we have a grassroots campaign that has been talked about as the most a
both sides made misstatements in the debate. doesn't the president need a different game plan going into the next debate? >> i don't accept that the postulation that both sides misrepresented the facts. mr. romney misrepresented the facts on his medicare plan and on the president's. let me say, yes, he has to be aggressive in defining who mitt romney is. he'll use his own words. mr. 47%. i think, i think, lay out his vision in contradistinction to romney's and do so in a more aggressive...
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and reminding everyone how desperately out of touch ryan and romney are. joining us now, the nation's largest public employee union and jack bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. >> good evening, al. >> i want both of you to weigh in on this. lee, you're in columbus, ohio. is it your feeling that it will resonate with voters in that state? >> i've been to cincinnati and toledo. i'm in columbus today. not only with members but people across the community, across the spectrum, they are excited about this election. they watched that debate last night. they watched joe biden clean the clock of the supposed economic intellectual guru of the party. cleaned his clock. and they talk about the real issues at impact, whether it's social security. it's clear now that republicans want to privatize social security. they talked about medicare. they want to make medicare into a coupon program. that's what paul ryan and mitt romney are talking about. our folks are ener
and reminding everyone how desperately out of touch ryan and romney are. joining us now, the nation's largest public employee union and jack bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. >> good evening, al. >> i want both of you to weigh in on this. lee, you're in columbus, ohio. is it your feeling that it will resonate with voters in that state? >> i've been to cincinnati...
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there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're beyond -- if i put a size 10 feet -- foot in a size 8 shoe there are structural problems. i have a choice to choose from. >> tell me about it. >> okay. so my high heels hurt me as well. the reality is that to make the argument about vouchers is really to talk about a philosophical difference but the philosophical difference rests on the convenience and luxury to say we're going to give a voucher to some to make the choice, that misunderstands the fact that so many other people don't have choices and the people that are left behind are forced into a situation over which they exercise no control. so the illusion of
there is daylight between mitt romney and -- >> he likes to have it both places. >> but the big bird thing points to a larger i think willful disavowel of struggle in this country. >> and struggle and structure. you're on the titanic, i'm going to give you a voucher, a life -- you know a life boat so to speak or what he called life jacket to go on, but the ship is sinking. you plug the hole. the structural problems mitt romney seems to have no comprehension of, that they're...
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the only significant difference, on iran, we can expect that both president obama and candidate romney will be focusing a great deal on iran as a threat. their language will be very similar. but the red line they are imposing is very different. for president obama, the red line all along has been the question of preventing iran from obtaining, from getting in a clear weapon. but everybody agrees the u.s., all 16 u.s. intelligence agencies, most of the israeli intelligence and military officials, etc., everybody agrees that is way down the road. but for governor romney, the red line he has claimed and he claimed it again in his speech -- his own foreign-policy speech is that he will rely on the israeli red line, although he did not identify it as that, which is preventing iran from obtaining nuclear weapons capacity, nuclear-weapons capability. that is a whole cuttlefish. that is now. the ability to produce enriched uranium, which any country with a nuclear power program has come including iran, and scientific know-how, which iran has come except for the five scientists that have been a
the only significant difference, on iran, we can expect that both president obama and candidate romney will be focusing a great deal on iran as a threat. their language will be very similar. but the red line they are imposing is very different. for president obama, the red line all along has been the question of preventing iran from obtaining, from getting in a clear weapon. but everybody agrees the u.s., all 16 u.s. intelligence agencies, most of the israeli intelligence and military...
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i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don't have to watch advertising on pbs. my view is it makes sense to stop borrowing many and let our kids get used to corn flakes. >> sesame street was brought today by the letter "g" for grouch. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eheh, eh, eh. [ brooklyn accent ] 50% more simoleons. [ western accent ] 50% more sawbucks. ♪ [ maine accent ] 50% more clams. it's a lobster, either way. [ male announcer ] the capit
i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand...
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thank you both for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> chris, let me start with you. does vice president biden need to point to the values of fairness in the ryan plan and now the romney/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan -- it's going to be much harder for him to do that. he wrote the ryan plan. >> right. >> he can't run away from the plan that bears his name, the plan that bears his name that would voucherize medicare. so i think the key is for joe biden to take the modern republican party, particularly the modern republican house caucus and hang it around the neck of paul ryan. >> well, ryan wrote the budget, as you said, and ryan is named after -- and he is the one that made some of these votes. kind of hard to run away from it. krystal, when you look at his record, it seems right for pickings. his budget raises ta
thank you both for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> chris, let me start with you. does vice president biden need to point to the values of fairness in the ryan plan and now the romney/ryan plan? >> yeah. i think one of the things that was so remarkable and frustrating about the performance in the presidential debate was that romney seemed to essentially disown anything that he had previously advocated that was now unpopular. he pulled this remarkable u-turn. paul ryan --...
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amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on romney's debate preparation. >> we'd say the same lie over and over and my dad learned then not to believe it. so while we didn't go to any of the formal debate preparation, we did the real hard stuff. as a father, he learned how to debate an obstinate child. >> kicking it off by suggesting the president is an obstinate child. that's great, mr. romney. what do you have for sale? >> i am going to put a cap on regulation and any new major regulation will have to be approved by congress. i'm not letting the politicians off the hook. >> absolutely, h
amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on...
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today mitt romney continues his week long visit there to ohio. no rp,-c won the white house without carrying the buckeye state. earlier president obama wrapped up his 17th rally there. that's the most of any other state. with all the new polls out showing a much tighter race, both candidates definitely know, it's on. and they have to trade serious shots. this one in particular over the tax plan. it's true it's not going to have the deficit. that leaves one option. that's asking middle class families to foot the bill. >> the president's charge of a $5 trillion tax cut is inaccurate and wrong. meanwhile, the vice presidential debate is scheduled for tomorrow. >>> 2,000 jobs are up for graps today in the south gay. 50 employers were there this event is free and ones until 1:00 this afternoon. good morning. it was an idea that was first announced last mont if you ever wonder what goes on at twitter, you can this friday. you have to register first. you see on the screen in the white part there's the web address. shares in apple recovering after highs.
today mitt romney continues his week long visit there to ohio. no rp,-c won the white house without carrying the buckeye state. earlier president obama wrapped up his 17th rally there. that's the most of any other state. with all the new polls out showing a much tighter race, both candidates definitely know, it's on. and they have to trade serious shots. this one in particular over the tax plan. it's true it's not going to have the deficit. that leaves one option. that's asking middle class...
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romney's policies. >> yeah. absolutely, rev. because we've spent so much time focused on his performance and that's sort of the sugar high from the debate on wednesday but then you start focusing in on what he actually said and there's a lot there. as you said, he's boxed himself in a corner. you know, for instance, on his tax policy, on the $716 billion that he says the president is cutting out of medicare which is also in his running mate's own budget, just done in different ways, yeah, he's boxed himself in a corner and i think a lot of democrats hope and we've seen on the campaign trail since the debate that the president is pushing back on a lot of things that he didn't push back on during the debate. >> i want to go there, margorie, because i said the night of the debate that i couldn't believe how many lies and misrepresentations were said by romney. but it seems the president now has been very aggressive of politico's assessment that he is aggressive and watch this. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the cou
romney's policies. >> yeah. absolutely, rev. because we've spent so much time focused on his performance and that's sort of the sugar high from the debate on wednesday but then you start focusing in on what he actually said and there's a lot there. as you said, he's boxed himself in a corner. you know, for instance, on his tax policy, on the $716 billion that he says the president is cutting out of medicare which is also in his running mate's own budget, just done in different ways, yeah,...
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both the romney and the obama campaigns are out stumping tonight. mitt romney and president obama have 50 possible states to fight over. they have nine or so swing states that seem to actually be in play. tonight mitt romney and barack obama are both in just one state. mr. romney appearing with chris christie and rob portman in akron, ohio. the president showing up with will.i.am. >> buckeyes, we need you. we need you fired up. >> ohio is going to elect me the next president of the united states. >> all the interest in competing in ohio, the desperate need to win the election in ohio, the dualing rallies and the ground games, all that comes from the context of a big surprising decision in ohio this afternoon. about how the election is going to be run there this year. back in 2004, the night that the democratic ticket decided not to concede the race on election night because they were waiting on results. part of what was happening in '04 was this. these horrendous epic lines for ohio voters. they waited ten hours and more in ohio in 2004 to cast a vo
both the romney and the obama campaigns are out stumping tonight. mitt romney and president obama have 50 possible states to fight over. they have nine or so swing states that seem to actually be in play. tonight mitt romney and barack obama are both in just one state. mr. romney appearing with chris christie and rob portman in akron, ohio. the president showing up with will.i.am. >> buckeyes, we need you. we need you fired up. >> ohio is going to elect me the next president of the...
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he and his people are calling governor romney that. that is very absurd here. what they have done is to store it what each of these candidates is advocating, it has been distorted by both sides on occasion. what they are doing right now, the obama campaign, is really beyond compare. the reality is, professor rosen is stepping forward to defend his analysis, saying that the white house and the president and his campaign staff are utterly wrong when they suggest that lowering rates is not adequate to simulate more growth and to reach a revenue neutral solution. megyn: david axelrod was on the sunday shows saying if you lower rates, and eliminate loopholes, he says, i am not giving gifts to the rich because i'm going to get rid of a lot of popular deductions that the rich take. but david axelrod says that's not enough. even doing that is not enough to make up for all the revenue that he is going to sacrifice by lowering the rates. lou: he wants to do something very important. the national liberal media will not focus on it. he is talking about ending loopholes and
he and his people are calling governor romney that. that is very absurd here. what they have done is to store it what each of these candidates is advocating, it has been distorted by both sides on occasion. what they are doing right now, the obama campaign, is really beyond compare. the reality is, professor rosen is stepping forward to defend his analysis, saying that the white house and the president and his campaign staff are utterly wrong when they suggest that lowering rates is not...
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now mitt romney is standing both for it and against it. and at this point, in a presidential campaign, that is not tenable, not for long. also, second point, while trying to get away with this idea that he's not in favor of legislation to restrict abortion rights, despite his record to the contrary, it should be noted that mitt romney picked as his vice presidential nominee an anti-abortion absolutist named paul ryan, a man who has co-sponsored 38 anti-abortion measures in congress. who today outside an ice cream shop in florida said there is zero daylight between his and mitt romney's ideas on this subject. what paul ryan believes on abortion mitt romney believes to. right down to redefining rape in co-sponsorship with todd akin? is that included? mr. romney said today under duress that the romney/ryan position is the romney/ryan position, there's no difference between them. and he said you'll hear more about it at the vice presidential debate tomorrow. i bet you will. joining us now is steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." thanks for b
now mitt romney is standing both for it and against it. and at this point, in a presidential campaign, that is not tenable, not for long. also, second point, while trying to get away with this idea that he's not in favor of legislation to restrict abortion rights, despite his record to the contrary, it should be noted that mitt romney picked as his vice presidential nominee an anti-abortion absolutist named paul ryan, a man who has co-sponsored 38 anti-abortion measures in congress. who today...
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romney. both of these candidates are very familiar with the town hall format, it's just that they haven't been doing it with their opponents sitting on stage waiting for the follow-up. mr. obama will be taking questions from the audience. he too will try to elm if a pa theisman and try to turn it around and use it on the president. the speed in which he does the pivot could determine whether he wins on style points let alone substance. >> shepard: interesting. both camps preeminent strike on candy crowley. >> she says she will allow a facilitation process. questions she will will have chosen herself in advance and that if the candidates in her words were to start talking about apples when the questions were about oranges, she will do a little bit of correction. now, some on both sides, the campaigns have suggested to the debate commission that there that they are a little concerned that her role was supposed to be reduced if not virtually nonexistent. no, i'm going to ask those questions, the
romney. both of these candidates are very familiar with the town hall format, it's just that they haven't been doing it with their opponents sitting on stage waiting for the follow-up. mr. obama will be taking questions from the audience. he too will try to elm if a pa theisman and try to turn it around and use it on the president. the speed in which he does the pivot could determine whether he wins on style points let alone substance. >> shepard: interesting. both camps preeminent strike...
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both president obama and mitt romney know the key to winning the election is winning the critical swing state of ohio. the president arrived there late today, and he went right after governor romney. >> i am not going to have us go back to another round of top-down economics, but that's what my opponent is offering. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers said that paying for governor romney's tax plan -- one or the other. pick your poison. last week when we were on stage together. governor romney just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention for that tax cut under the carpet behind the curtain. >>> romney's pretending his tax cut plan doesn't exist, but the president won't let him get away with it. he also won't let him get away with hitting the middle class to protect his own tax rate. >> governor romney said it's fair he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher or autoworker
both president obama and mitt romney know the key to winning the election is winning the critical swing state of ohio. the president arrived there late today, and he went right after governor romney. >> i am not going to have us go back to another round of top-down economics, but that's what my opponent is offering. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers...
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the president's problem was he didn't come with a strong narrative frame, both for defending his own accomplishments and own record, give us an idea of where we're going in the next term and holding mitt romney accountable for having 87 positions on every issue. yes, it gets repetitive but if you continue to frame the issue, you know, in a more elegant way, which we know the president's capable of, you can remind the audience over and over because mitt romney has flip-flopped over and over. so, i hope we see not only -- and the president can remain polite. i just hope we see a more aggressive defense and a better frame, a better narrative about who he is, what he's done and where we're going as a country. >> let's start with the negative. let's play defense here. what about going after this 47%, when romney was being taped, not on national television, but when he thought he wasn't on national television, when he basically dismissed half the country for being slackers, moochers, whatever, loafers. when he did that, that wasn't something he was saying by accident. that is something, se
the president's problem was he didn't come with a strong narrative frame, both for defending his own accomplishments and own record, give us an idea of where we're going in the next term and holding mitt romney accountable for having 87 positions on every issue. yes, it gets repetitive but if you continue to frame the issue, you know, in a more elegant way, which we know the president's capable of, you can remind the audience over and over because mitt romney has flip-flopped over and over. so,...
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. >> buckeye battleground, obama and romney both in ohio tonight. the state that matters most to republicans. first, romney kicks off the day at a family farm in iowa where he will be speaking minutes from now. and the battle over big bird, the president turns his attack into a punch line and a commercial, as sesame workshop and senator john mccain cried foul over the obama campaign's new bird ad. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar is hide out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's th
. >> buckeye battleground, obama and romney both in ohio tonight. the state that matters most to republicans. first, romney kicks off the day at a family farm in iowa where he will be speaking minutes from now. and the battle over big bird, the president turns his attack into a punch line and a commercial, as sesame workshop and senator john mccain cried foul over the obama campaign's new bird ad. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar is...
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on both sides. look, last week, even during the presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, the obama campaign tried to push on twitter the idea that mitt romney was being inappropriately testy. they tried so hard to push the testy mitt idea. they tried so hard to make that into a thing that people should feel about that debate. >> he got testy about it. he got testy about being on defense. i think that came across to the american people. >> a testy governor romney who spent the entire time on defense. >> i think for some folks at home it probably came across a little testy. >> yeah, no. nice try. i mean, maybe mitt romney was testy, at the presidential debate, and maybe joe biden did laugh in paul ryan's face all night at the vice presidential debate. but that is in part because these guys, mitt romney and joe biden, were pumped and they were pumped because they were obviously winning their debates. and complaining about that does not change that. but the other person who was pumpe
on both sides. look, last week, even during the presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, the obama campaign tried to push on twitter the idea that mitt romney was being inappropriately testy. they tried so hard to push the testy mitt idea. they tried so hard to make that into a thing that people should feel about that debate. >> he got testy about it. he got testy about being on defense. i think that came across to the american people. >> a testy governor romney...
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romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins. >> the media is focusing on one poll. >> that's reaction to the recent batch of polling, including that devastating pew poll that showed a four point romney lead. now consider that pew took an earlier poll in september a couple weeks before the debate, it was the republicans going ballistic when it showed romney eight points down. watch. >> these polls are basically just part and parcel of the campaign for barack obama to help him stay in this game as long as possible. >> if you believe what the polls are saying right now, you've got to believe that there's s
romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins....